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BEACH FUN FOR MY BOYS

Sharing some pics today on the beach :)
Bros Moose 17months n Memphis 9 months old
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  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Awwe they look like they're having a blast! It's been so hot lately that I've changed our walking times, so we don't fry on our walks, lol. I hope Moose is feeling better :)
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Oh I know how hard it is and will be in the hot season :# we have restrictions with dogs on the beach and unless they like it off pier or off rocks it’ll be hard for me too. Moose is getting more confident in the water but Memphis is a keen swimmer, I’ll have no problem cooling him down but it’ll be the crowd of people that they must conquer and relax to enjoy the water...we’ll see there’s time still. Stay cool I know our bullies don’t like the heat :/
    My Moose still has episodes Tina, no relief and I’m conflicted and impatient :(
    Always after exercise and a great day out...awful ending for my Moosey
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Awwe poor Moose, I'm so sorry he keeps having episodes. I would be frustrated and worried too! Billie's head broke out into pimples. I think she may be allergic to jicama. Hopefully it'll clear up soon!
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Is that a good brand Tina?
    Yes our bullies always keep us busy with little issues lol hope it clears soon. Memphis has some paw issues just have to keep an eye on it ;)
    Keep well :)
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    I hope his paws get better soon! Jicama is a vegetable root. I just cut it up and put it in the fridge for a cold snack. It was the first time I gave it to Billie and she loved it,but she broke out into pimples after having it for a couple days, so I'm assuming it was the Jicama. Billie is getting a little thick, so I've pulled back on her treats a little bit, so she can loose a couple pounds
  • jur45jur45 australia
    A bit thick :p I love how you say that! As they get older, this will happen as with us too lol I’m still just giving my boys what I feel they need, I don’t measure. If moose looks a bit thin I give him extra bones or hearts. And Memphis can eat all the time, he will be the one to watch. It does depend on how much exercise too. I don’t worry too much yet and will monitor how they look. I don’t like to see any rib cage on moose. He shows weight loss more easily and I feel awful when I see it. If he drinks, I’m checking out his ribs :# I don’t give snacks normally. Just a slice of carrot or apple after Moose’s CBD as he gets an oily texture on his tongue :p
    Enjoy your Billie
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    What lucky boys to get such a feast! I hope you guys have a good week :)
  • jur45jur45 australia
    More pics
    Memphis wouldn’t leave this heavy plank of wood lol it was not a throwing stick but he couldn’t understand this :D
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  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Memphis looks like he's having so much fun! Those are great pics!
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  • jur45jur45 australia
    Yes he has a ball Tina and moose, just didn’t capture it this time. He had one day free from episode, today. I compiled all his history last night meds, visits, health, food, seizures etc.
    trying to find link with seizures :(
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    I didn't know Moose was having seizures on a daily basis :( Does it usually happen after he's had a good work out or does it happen randomly? Poor Moose, I hope he gets better soon!
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Tina they’ve been coming on so frequently now....bad one today and only when we exercise....usually happens on the beach.
    I’ve been getting more info from CBD supplier as it’s day 18 and there’s no effect. I can buy full spectrum but isolate CBD was the first option to use. I’ve contacted my vet and I can still up the dose but she wants to do bloodwork again.
    I actually bumped into a nice informative lady who suggested worming him as these nasties can cause seizures. I hadn’t wormed him for ages as I was going down the route of natural gut health to deter the worm environment they like. It was an awful thought he may have a sinister worm so I rushed out to buy the medicine she recommended :# and he will get this tomorrow. I hope he doesn’t get worse whilst on this medicine as you know too he is sensitive. I’ve noticed moose is more grumpy on CBD but this could be seizure related too.
    He does however have a great happy time on the beach and after his episode he comes good and is back to jumping around.
    He is a worry for me Tina.
    Hey I was asked by a lady if I was a dog trainer lol as my boys look exceptionally well behaved and controlled ;) I’ll take this as a compliment tina :)
    I will keep you up to date on how the following days go for us. Enjoy Billie time
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Hi Sarah,
    I didn't even think about worms causing seizures, but after I read your post, I did some quick research and indeed, they can cause seizures. I hope he doesn't have any reactions to the medication and he gets better.
    That's awesome that they thought you were a trainer- That's the best compliment:) It always makes me feel good and proud when people compliment how well behaved Billie is :x
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Thanks Tina for always posting o:)
    Today was better for Moose, no seizure.
    I wormed him too. Should I do Memphis, they say you should do maybe this morning for him. Also the more you read the more you find out lol. I was reading about MSM which they have, and this is also good regarding gut health etc.
    I really don’t think it is worms but I have to make sure.
    Memphis’ paw is showing the signs of the blistering look which Moose had omg same foot too :# I’m doing the CS and balm as I detest the foot soak but I will monitor it closely. Moose’ right ear has a slight infection but the CS works quick so I’m doing this too. Gee my boys keep me busy and the minute you don’t check thoroughly through their bodies, minor things pop up and you play ‘nurse’ :D
    How’s Billie’ health ...... paw etc and your arm now? How is the heat for you two?
    We got rain coming again :)
    Found an old pic of my snugglers in bed xx
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  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    I love the pic of the sleeping/snuggley babies!
    I know what you mean, I check Billie from head to toe everyday to make sure she's ok and if not, I play nurse too, lol. They sure do keep us busy!!
    My arm is completely healed :)
    Billie's break out is slowly healing, but there's a cluster of bumps/pimples that are like knots. I've been treating the area with a antiseptic/antifungal solution and also putting a cotton bandana underneath her collar to prevent further irritation during out walks. I hope it clears up soon and she doesn't go bald in those areas!
    We went on our walk early this morning while it was cooler out , but towards the end, she wanted to go back home, lol
    I'm glad that Moose had a seizure free day and I hope Memphis's paws get better soon :)
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    A few pics from this morning :)
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  • jur45jur45 australia
    She’s beautiful Tina and so clean ;;)
    My boys don’t sparkle like Billie and they rock a rust stain on their coats from the harness :s they’re always in the saltwater and I don’t use shampoo so it’s hard to really clean. When it’s warmer I’ll get onto it.
    Moose has had three days no episodes and I did worm him and Memphis. Too early to see if it’s this of the CBD kicking in. The vet didn’t think it is worms that cause his seizures. I’ll have to go and do bloods soon for my Moose.
    Had a great day today :D
    Memphis carries and retrieves the most heaviest toys ;) loves his swim, he’s a really strong pup :o3
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  • jur45jur45 australia
    Another sweet pic
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  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Thank you Sarah! I love the pic of the boys snuggling- I think it's the sweetest thing :) Memphis is a strong pup carrying that heavy piece of wood! I'm so glad that Moose is doing better too!
    Billie hasn't been wanting to walk lately, I shoot for 2 miles in the morning and 2 miles in the evening, but after 1.5 miles, she calls it quits and wants to come home, lol. I don't push her because it's been hot and the uv index has been 10 out of 10. I'm going to have to start walking her at the butt crack of dawn when summer hits! Like other EBT's, she doesn't do well in extreme heat
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Totally get the not wanting to walk in the heat with our bullies. I’m hoping moose will swim like Memphis so they enjoy the heat this summer but we have to get through winter first. Haven’t had our walk as yet just a busy day and they are looking at me waiting their turn ever so patiently lol
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Memphis was my walking buddy as Moose was reluctant to go and I lost my patience :s
    He looked everywhere for us once we went thinking I’ll go on his terms.....I hope it got the message ;)
    It was so easy with Memphis, such a good boy off leash with his beloved stick o:)
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  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    That's an awesome picture !! Moose was probably so excited to see you guys when u came back home!
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Hello Tina
    Did you get a security messsge upon loading ? Expired website?
    Well it’s on again for me.
    Hope you’re doing well and Billie of course
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  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Hi! Oh my goodness, that's such a funny and cute pic of them! You must of been giggling as you took that pic :)
    I tried logging on yesterday and I got the same security alert- figured it would be fixed by today:)
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  • jur45jur45 australia
    Billie has a crate too....does she use it often as I know she likes your bed lol ;)
    I’ve never had experience with these only knew kennels or indoor luxury of couches, beds, bodies etc :p
    It’s never too hot for a body hug Tina....I dread the next summer with moose n Memphis trying to cuddle up in our bed, I don’t have AC so it’s gonna be uncomfortable.
    My daughter took that pic as she was puppy sitting as I finally had my sons birthday party after lockdown. Yes it was a different pic from the ones I take. Billie and her ball is a cute shot. I also can see her little paw sores. It’s hard to maintain good footsies. Do you know how to overcome the dark nails. I know this is allergy related but it’s so stubborn. Moose’ are slowly changing but one nail is half black and white. I can’t up the DE as he’ll be constipated and idk anymore with allergy triggers :# i have to find a happy medium and just enjoy them but still limiting the seizure concern of course. They both had a great afternoon and no seizure a relief for both of us. I’ve been lazy doing the second evening dose as I fall asleep :( and tonight’s the second night. Maybe he doesn’t need this dose, I’ll see tomorrow. I hope it’s not too hot. Does Billie like the shower, some dogs do apparently but we don’t like the wet dog smell indoors!
    Glad the security msg was fixed. Chat again
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Hi Sarah, thank you. She loves those rubber balls, I have different sizes and colors that she plays with. I've used a crate since she was a little baby. It took some time for her to get used to the metal crates, but she likes it now. I refer to it as "her room" and she goes in there everyday to relax. The last few nights she's been preferring her crate to go to sleep, I think it's because she's been hot and its cooler in there.
    As far as showers, she loves it! I give her one once a week.
    Billie has a few brown marks on her nails, but everything I have done doesn't really help it. At this point, I just try to prevent and manage her allergies the best I can.
    I'm glad to hear Moose is doing better :)

    This is a pic of when she was 3 months old and the allergic reaction after she played in the grass for the first time. So now, I just keep her protected with clothes/shoes when needed and keep her off the grass. I feel bad she can't fully enjoy the outdoors, but we manage the best we can :)
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  • jur45jur45 australia
    Ouchy Tina that looks itchy! Moose gets a rash from his harness maybe the sand rubs with it when he plays but lately he’s a water baby so he’s washing the sand off for me so therefore no rash. He’s had a couple days no seizures but now I give him CBD morning only. I think this is better.....for now anyway.
    Yes all we can do is manage the allergies the best we can. I know I will not get 100% clearance and this is being realistic lol
    As long as they have happy times being a dog or maybe a human :D
    Thankyou for your comments on the other posts :)
    Did I send this funny pic?
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  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    That's so awesome Moose is loving the water lately! I love that pic, you can tell they have a tight bond with each other :x
    Billie's head/neck break out is almost healed and thank God, she didn't get a bald spot from it!
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Yes we do worry about bald spots and scarring on our precious babes!
    Great news it’s going for you but my boys have persistent little spots I cannot heal :(
    Good days for my Moose
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    I'm glad to hear Moose is doing good! It's been a rough few days over here with Billie. She's been misbehaving and still attacking random objects. Ive been correcting her with each incident, but it doesn't seem to resonate with her. I'm trying to be as patient and calm as possible through it.
    Our walks have been rough too...she goes into full aggressive/attack mode when we walk by a house where the dogs are aggressively barking from the house and she tries to lounge full force towards them and when I hold her by her leash, she tries to redirect it towards me. I thought maybe by working with her to calm down in those situations would eventually click for her, but now I'm scared she's going to bite me. My trust in her has been broken since the last time she bit me. I'm trying not to take things personal, but I'm having a really hard time with it.
    I hoping she gets better and learns to control herself. In the meantime, I'm avoiding the houses where I know she has issues with.
    I hope you and the boys are doing well
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    If anyone has any advice to help my Billie, please feel free to chime in. It would be much appreciated
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Oh Tina sorry to hear about Billie and her issues presently :(
    First I have to ask how is her health? Any issues there? If nothing I have to reassure you through this phase... which I hope you’ll manage fingers crossed. Is she in heat?
    Please stay positive through this challenging phase but I hope you get better strategies and advise from experienced owners as I’m not too sure what to say but that you are trying very hard. I too have challenging times always with Moose not Memphis as yet
    Hope to hear better times for you tina
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Hey Tina post a seperate seek for advice as you may get help from Boomer, willow and others :) heres a pic to make you smile
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  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Hi Sarah, thank you for your response. She doesn't have any health issues other than her allergies and they are at bay currently. I think she may be going into her heat cycle soon. Her last one was in December, so I know it's coming soon.
    Billie has a lot of fear and she is very vocal about it ( she cries like she's being beaten or attacked, it's so embarrassing!) She's been like that since she was a tiny puppy. I thought she would grow out of that,but nope! She still cries SO LOUD!
    I just want her to be comfortable and confident in any environment/situation.
    As far as her attacking random objects, I honestly don't know what her deal is with that, but it needs to stop.
    I have hope that she will get better as she gets older. She has come a long way since she was a puppy and her behavior has improved tremendously, but she still has some kinks to work out.
    I'll continue to work with her and love her through it. I just need to remain calm and patient as I am the only person she has.
    Thank you for your support and encouragement:)
    Btw, those pics totally made me smile! Such great photos!
  • that1Boomerthat1Boomer Middletown, PA
    Hi Tina,

    It's a bad position when you are the one who corrects and she lashes back at you. You have to be alpha. McKenzie has the same issue without the aggression. She will whine loudly at the pet store when another dog poses a threat or so she thinks. Let me say, she has only bitten me once. I corrected her and scolded her very much. To the point that she would have cried if she could. Now when that type of situation arises, she looks to me for the guidance. She still looses her mind periodically. But she understood I was having nothing to do with her behavior. It's a rough place to be when you can't control the actions of your BT. Put that foot down and let her have it when she is being that way. She has to know it is unacceptable. Also, turn right around and walk the other way. I have mine turn around and sit. If she does not sit, we walk further away and sit. Until she does. Then you know you got through. Because sitting in one of the actions you taught her. Now you try again tomorrow. She will eventually get it. Some of these BT's need a firm crack on the ass to get their attention. Some are so easy going, they never need to be corrected so harshly. You have to mean it when you do it and don't say your sorry. She should be saying that, not you. Control is a double edged sward. Do you want a well behaved dog or a dog that walks all over you because you are a pushover? I think you know where this is all going.

    Good luck and best wishes, Bill
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Hi Bill,
    Thank you for your advice and suggestions, it's very much appreciated :)

    My question to you is, HOW did you reprimand McKenzie when she bit you? I would like to know the exact technique/method for correcting and scolding so I can nip it in the ass here on out.

    I'm pretty strict with her when it comes to correcting and following through with her, but clearly there are some bad behavior issues she still needs to work out.
    Billie is my first EBT and my first dog as an adult, lol. I've worked so hard and put in a lot of time and love with this girl, lol. She's so crazy sometimes and drives me mad, but I love her to pieces! I'm determined to work through these behavior issues! Shes a smart girl, but stubborn as all hell.
    Thank you again for your help
  • that1Boomerthat1Boomer Middletown, PA
    Hi Tina,
    Some may not agree with my method, but after the first EBT, I have a firm method for aggression. She hurts me and I yell OUCH! If she has not caught on and pushes harder. A swift swat on the ass and ignoring her for about 10 minutes. That means no "I'm sorry" or "Okay, you are a good girl" All she gets is ignored and no attention for 10 minutes. After that, carry on to whatever you were doing, if she approaches, pet her head. But the ignoring kills them. They want you to play and touch them so bad. This is where you gain the edge. The swat on the ass is to get the attention off of whatever it is that caused the aggression. The ignoring is where you gain the ground. From that point on, They pretty much listen for the OUCH. If that happens, mine sits and looks at me for guidance. This is what I want. No unwarranted anger woopin' like my Dad used to do to me. Just the shear fact that I mean business. All I want is for her to fall into line and listen when she is overly hyper. She gets it too. I truly believe that she respects me for being Alpha. Looking to me for leadership and being the giver of food, love and companionship. My wife says I am a no bullshit kind of person. Too kind to hurt a person or dogs feelings on purpose. But push me too far and I can be the worst part of that person or dogs day. I don't demand respect by any means. I earn every bit of it. Then stick by the rules. I also am not too proud to apologize when I am wrong. But the dog demands that I be right, even when I am wrong. No mixed signals for my best friend. She is not perfect, but she is perfect to me! I will be her leader and her friend forever.

    Sorry for being long winded. I like to let people know that I am not mean or harsh. I want what is best for everyone. I was the abused child when I grew up, I will not treat anyone or thing that way.

    You're welcome, It may not be a simple as some think, to get a well behaved EBT. These are the things that work for me. :)

  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Hi Bill,
    Thank you for taking the time to respond back with helpful tips. I don't think your methods are mean or harsh at all and I'll be implementing your suggestions with Billie. I can be a softy at times, especially when she gets in big trouble and she's sulking in the corner...don't get me wrong, I do follow through, but when I call her over after she sits in her corner for a while, I'll give her extra love and tell her to be a good girl, lol. I guess I need to remain neutral even after. She's so smart, but when she's overly excited or fixated on something, that's all she's focused on. I need to find a method to snap her out of that state when it happens. It has been a learning experience for both Billie and I.
    Thank you again for your help Bill :)
  • that1Boomerthat1Boomer Middletown, PA
    You are so very welcome Tina,

    You are honing in on what has to happen. Get her to listen to you and never take the aggressive whining too personal if she reflects it back at you. Just let her know who's the boss and what you expect. She is like all other EBT's Stubborn, Smart, Powerful, Mouthy and a Ball Energy and love. They are smarter than we give them credit for. She is young and has a lot more learning to do. You got this thing. Be firm and patient, it will pay off.
    :-j
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Thank you Bill! Her second name is "good girl" so I need to stop saying that and only say it when she's actually being a good girl, lol. I hope McKenzie is doing well :)
  • jur45jur45 australia
    Hello Tina :)
    I’m glad Boomer gave you some helpful tips and that you are in a better place with Billie as I write.
    Moose has had four day break from seizures but it is touch n go as I dabble with the dosage, really don’t know what I’m doing but I anticipated a speedier result for him.
    I will be changing for a different product next time (full spectrum) to see if this is more suitable and adding additional supplements too. Still haven’t booked the vet, costs are mounting :#
    Hoping you and Billie are getting on well or slowly overcoming your challenges at least
    Fingers crossed Tina
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Hi Sarah! Thank you! Yes, Bill's suggestions are helping me help her! Billie is doing better and I've been honing in and being more firm with her ( I feel bad, but I'm sticking to it). She's in her adolescence, so I'm mindful of that too. Overall she is doing better, I know it won't be fixed overnight, but I'm very hopeful with time and consistency she'll be a well behaved girl in whatever situation or environment she's in :)
    I hope Moose's health condition gets better soon, I know you've been doing your best to find a remedy and solution for his needs. The vets here have been swamped as well. I need to make an appointment for Billie's annual checkup and vaccines as she is due for them at the end of the month.
    I hope you guys are enjoying the cool weather :)
    Thank you again for your kind words of encouragement :)
  • jur45jur45 australia
    How are you and Billie Tina?
    I hope when you read this that things are improving for you both. How old is Billie again, sorry to ask Tina I’m lazy going back through our threads lol
    Well Moose had a seizure today :( he had a 6 day break at least. Poor boy had his little tongue sticking out and was uncomfortable for awhile. He wanted to walk through the last stage and just kept going, I panicked to retrieve him as I didn’t know what to expect as he is off leash....I run, Memphis runs thinking we’re playing lol but is was short lived. Moose came through and was back to play mode but struggled on the last stretch home.
    That’s us up to date Tina.
    Take care keep up the good work and chat soon
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    Hi Sarah!
    Omg, I'm sorry to hear Moose had another seizure, that must be so scary when it happens, poor baby :( I hope he is ok. I hope the vet is able to figure out what's causing it and help him get better.

    Billie is doing better, she's 15 ½ months old. She ate baby wipe the other day (I'm usually really careful not to leave anything out that she can eat/swallow, but I left one out on the counter top and she just helped herself to it) I tried to pull it out if her mouth, but she quickly swallowed it. I called the vet and they said it should pass. Long story short, she didn't pass it , she vommitted it up this morning! The wipe was in her stomach for 2 days! So crazy! Im relieved that it's out of her system and she's ok
  • jur45jur45 australia
    OMG moose loves them too and tissues and anything I wipe with lol
    Glad it’s out of her system :D
    So Billie is just behind in age from Moose, he’s 17 months....I knew they were close though.
    Did you see the massive Bully OMG we have it easy hey? ;)
    Take care you two
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  • that1Boomerthat1Boomer Middletown, PA
    edited July 14
    McKenzie loved tissues and paper towels. She gets super excited if one is left where she can reach it. Now Murphy God rest her soul, got ahold of a corn cob at a picnic. It took her 3 days to force that thing out. I say it was a once in a lifetime roto-rootering. She struggled and let me tell you, the thing looked exactly the same as it did going in. With the exception of it being brown. Her insides must have been clean as a whistle after that. She never stopped eating or drinking, so we thought she chewed it up. She was very relieved and ran about 5 laps in the yard right after it. I am convinced she would have eaten another if she had the chance. lololololol
  • jur45jur45 australia
    OMG What a story/event you get to share and scare us Boomer :#
    I have to watch the stick consumption with Memphis as he chews them down when he retrieves them for another throw and yes they do surface out the other end along with the grass you have to pull out sometimes :s
    Eeek
  • that1Boomerthat1Boomer Middletown, PA
    lol I forgot to mention the tan bark. McKenzie has a thing for that too. It is readily available and already in snack size pieces. I would imagine the results are the same coming out the other end. hahaha. They do what they want, when they want to do it. Or you hear about it for a long time. Sometimes I think, if she could talk. She would be using cuss words to tell me how she feels. But we use them to talk to her at times too. :D
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    That's a fabulous pic of the boys Sarah- they're so handsome
  • Billie_TinaBillie_Tina California
    I dont know what happened to the rest of my post!
    Bill, that's insane Murphy ate a corn cobb and passed it whole! McKenzie sounds a lot like Billie and I think she would be cussing too if she could talk, hahaha.
    I have a cruise coming up in November and my brother and sister in law agreed to watch Billie for a week,but I'm seriously having second thoughts bc they have two little kiddos and a crap ton of toys and such Billie could eat/swallow. I think I'm going to board her for a week instead and have the professionals take care of her, so I know she's safe and I can have peace of mind.
    What age do they start calming down, was it 3 years?! Lol
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